vegito vs gogeta

It matches! The narrator said at the end of one of the episodes about Vegito, "...the greatest Saiyan to ever live." No one knows the exact power levels of any of the fighters during the times of fusion, thus making any arguments opinionated or biased. We assume that Gogeta would retain the same level of power as Vegito, but when his unfortunate time-limit would eventually hit, he’d be Buu’s dessert. Therefore we must use only the anime to make any sort of comparrison due to wanting to keep things EVEN in comparrison. Vegeta, on other hand, was around 30 millions. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. its part of the fusion dance, therefor it is part of the equation here. So if Goku and Vegeta fused while having the ability to reach SS4, I HIGHLY doubt that Gogeta would be unable to. Therefore, you cannot simply say Vegito is stronger because of rival boost because you simply don't know if Gogeta does get it or not. (Im tired so this is as musch info as i could summon at the moment). Gogeta, however, couldn't exist, let alone beat Janemba without going Super Saiyan. Renegade308 (talk) 11:22, October 11, 2012 (UTC). veigto wins because of it. C'mon guys, its a DB/Z/GT Wiki, use the resources you're given. All we really know is that one fusion lasts 30 minutes and the other doesn't. so let work with x10 for now. we know ss2 = ss1x2 (but thats fpss1 which is at least x10 ss1, since goku said vegeta would at least need to x3 from ss1 to take on cell, vegeta laughed since he had way more... say x5) so lets make fpss1 x2 ussj1, ss3 = x4 ss2 which makes it ss1 x 10 x 2 x 4 = x 80 from ss1 to ss3. Vegito is much more powerful and has better/more feats. Serious. We're using the same "ingredients" but cooking differently, fusion with the Potara Earrings are indeed more effective as it combines all the power from both users. You have no evidence or statement to support your claims. Gogeta was formed by the fusion dance, and in case you've forgotten, Gotenks, who was also formed by the fusion dance, was able to reach Super Saiyan just like Goten and Trunks, and even SURPASSED THEM by reaching Super Saiyan 3. He never stated it was stronger or that it had more power. All this crap about the potara fusion being stronger because its a forever fusion is crap, it comes down to just how they use the power they have, like with Cell an Gohan. Even if it is officially realised then it is also officially realised an encyclopedia from toriyama himself stating that vegito is stronger. He chose to power up to demoralize Buu. Potara is permanent, which can be good, as well as bad, for obvious reasons. you should. 5) Yet again, we're talking about after they fuse correctly, not if they fuse correctly. Normaly, a fusion means that something combined , right? So, we can only use things already happened. It is not a good comparison to make. Gogeta Blue who is already good, just gets a lot better. Dudes. But I personally don't think it makes sense since the rival's boost didn't exist until after movie 12. I came here just to check who (reasonably talking) was better. So goku fought janemba AFTER vegetas SACRIFICE and BEFORE he fought kid buu. ALOT. QueenSaiyajin. Same with Fusion Reborn, that movie mirrors a fusion between the two most powerful saiyans at the time, and it shows a very powerful character as a result of that fusion. Vegito obviously, First off Elder Kai states that patora fusion is stronger then fusion dance. But in a fight Vegito would win because there is no time limit. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Gogeta_v_Vegito?oldid=1365555. With a potara, the energies are slammed together with their full potential. If all rules of these fusions apply Vegito wins. Why not just use Gogeta? Both Gogeta and Vegito can be 'cocky', but only when they know they can win with no problem. He could've destroyed him in minutes, but he would destroy his friends too, so that's a no no. If you wanted to do that, you could have Hercule fight Gogeta, and Hercule could just hide until Gogeta ceases to exist. ( I know Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta isn't serious at all because he toyed with Omega Shenron.. Hell, with the earings you don't have to worry about little actions that cause big problems. It is unknown who would win in a fight, but at least we know they are both really powerfull. And the Old Kai did state that the fusion was a better way to fuse. !Unifying the spirits of the two strongest rivals and merging them together, Fusion has better balance and is able to draw their power out to the max!! But WAIT! Giving Vegito a pretty fair advantage over Gogeta. One issue that must also be addressed is how the Potara fusion versus Fusion dance works. He created him to add Fusion to the canon series. Gogeta only defeated Janemba (while he was Super Saiyan). Zendarmanitan (talk) 21:48, December 30, 2012 (UTC)zendarmanitan, if Gogeta goes SS4 he would win but he has to beat him within 30 mins if not Vegito would win. also for all you people saying that vegito is more like vegeta and gogeta more like goku or as someone said up there controled by them well im here to tell you they are equally shared thats why its fusion! Even though I think Gogeta is a lot more calculated and serious (which is my personal preference in a character, and why I think he's cooler), he will sadly lose to a battle against Vegito, and I will explain why. vegeto actually had to struggle a bit to break buuhans shout technique. Post Sep 06, 2004 #1 2004-09-06T03:51. Now if we but a ssj4 fusion of Gogeta (made bye both ssj4 Goku and Vegta) agisnt Vegtio ssj4 the fight would end up a draw and if you people think that why not fuse Vegtio with ssj1 or 2 Goku and Vegta this is because that body wouldnt be able to with stand the power of a ssj 1 or 2 dont belive this watch the anime bitch. "BUUHAN" starting at the base FAT buu we see him transform into super buu. Vegito is Stronger than Gogeta and here's why. Secondly, we're pretty much not including the time limit here because that's not a true test of strength; that's wait half an hour for him to defuse. Godzilla3000 00:35, May 25, 2012 (UTC), goku figured ss1 gotenks could take out majin buu (enough so he left the fate of the world in their hands), ss3 gotenks + super buu + piccolo = slightly stronger than gohan, so that puts gohan at super buu x2, which makes buuhan: super buu + gohan (x3 super buu's base, since buutenks would be x2.1). Putting that mildly and without further indication of other stuff. We know it's accurate because it has no spelling, grammar, or typing errors. Because if he didn't train Goku, then Goku still would be stronger, and we wouldn't use fiction inside of the fiction, and Vegito would win! Dragon Ball Super: Broly officially releases in Japan this December, so fans will get to see more of Super Saiyan Blue Goku in action soon enough. The next thing to keep in mind is that Gogeta did not exist in manga. The main point being, at this point Janemba is as strong as FAT buu and Goku is a little stronger than FAT buu. So both Vegito and Gogeta are stronger. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! He has Goku's softer jawline and Vegeta's sharper eyes. But if you have a fictional question, you need a fictional answer, right? He is very similar to Gogeta, who is anoth… now in the video games vegito is made out to be stronger as in budokai tenkaichi 3 i think when you go to the battle of vegito vs super buu krillen says something like "this is where goku and vegeta fused into the Ultimate fusion warrior vegito!" SSJ4 Gogeta was only joking around so he could get Omega to use the Negative Karma Ball and turn it positive to return Earth back to normal. If Goku and Vegeta could go SSJ4 when they put the earrings on, it is logical to assume that their fused counterpart could also obtain this state. [30] 22:48, May 23, 2012 (UTC). Also Androids 18 & 17's fight against the z warriors lasted not very long. Since x10 base would = a x10 boost to any ss stage, this makes it a pretty big difference. All of my findings are based on anime evidence and this is the best i can come up with. [21][22]Ssj2[23]gohan[24][25] 21:16, February 7, 2012 (UTC), Although gogeta does have powerful attacks shown against janemba which altogether was a 35 second fight vegetto was not trying against buu so he could save his friends. They both tie in strength, speed, techniques, experience and all of the other factors. in movie 12, gogeta killed janemba IMMEDIATELY, plus vegetto isnt serious either. Funimation will be bringing the film to theaters in the United States on January 16. Goku (which will be around 35 millions) on SSJ2 (*50*2) was by himself stronger than Gogeta SSJ (3,5 bi). Ash: And Shadic, the fusion of Sonic and Shadow from ChakraX's Nazo Unleashed! Finally, he wears white gloves and boots in the same style as Vegeta. Afterwards he went dead to movie 12 Gogeta. Third, whether Gogeta can become SSJ4 or not does not matter. I don't know if this necessarily makes a difference in power, but it does limit their time away from the other world. He compared the FIRST Janemba to being as Strong as MAJIN Buu. Well actually, the old witch did, but anyway, Elder Kai could still give Goku and Vegeta the Potarra Earrings. In fact, Vegito doesn't even exist in GT, so there's no argument. I don't understand why people are still debating this...Old Kai said the Potara fusion was far superior to the fusion dance, and he didn't mean time limit (though that was part of it), he meant power. First off lets take away the time limit for Gogeta. But Gogeta wins. I actually made it the other way around, I try to think of the power first (the 55 bi) and then try to match the final result (1,1 bi on Vegito's base form; since SSJ multiplies it by 50) with some equation. Check google. The one most impossible to believe was SSJ3 Gogeta being weaker than SSJ Vegito. That’s definitely strongest.”. In Wrath of the Dragon, it is revealed that if the fused characters sustain enough damage while under fusion, the fusion will end prematurely. Vegito has the snark of Vegita, the bite of him and the durability of goku and prowess of his fighting abilities/adaptability with more sarcasm and gaul. Gogeta on DBGT was playful, like Vegito on DBZ. vegito's moves, however, are not.but Gogeta has a stronger power level because that form is using more of goku's power than vegito's goku vegito is using more of vegeta's and goku is stronger than vegeta. So, Super Vegito from Buu Saga is stronger than Super Gogeta from Fusion Reborn, but SSJ4 Gogeta from GT is stronger than SSJ Vegito from Buu saga. Yes, as SSJ4 Gogeta is WAY more powerful than SSB Vegito… case in point Goku (& Vegeta for that matter), at the end of the Frieza/Namek arc, Goku w/out SSJ1 is 3.000.000 units. So, in MY OPINION, Vegito is better. As Base Gotenks was much stronger than SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten. I dont could piccollos power as relevent. But WAIT! That doesn't mean the potara fusion creates a stronger fusion than the fusion dance. He says a lot of nonsense. vegito is stronger becaus he has a bigger ball sack173.206.247.82 03:04, June 21, 2012 (UTC)jinloon, My opinion is that after years of training in heaven/hell Bardock would show up and murder both of them, Obviously, Lopunny would win because she's like totally lumpin. and there are infinate outcomes of this battle say gogeta could have finished with a stardust breaker and vegito dodged it then beam sword slashed him or gogetas stardust did hit him you can really have no winner to an equal battle. plus it keeps the fight even at ss1. Gogeta is much more powerful than Vegito, hands down. Based on my calculations, it is actually, power * power / 1,000,000 or (power / 1000) * (power / 1000). Comparing these two is like comparing Goku when he was fighting Raditz to Goku when he is fighting Buu. SSJ3Vegetto (talk) 16:28, November 24, 2012 (UTC)), If you all think about this there is alot of Gogeta's forms this is because Goku and Vegta can reach ssj 1,2,3, and 4. COULDNT DEAL DAMAGE. The fusees must also equalize their power levels. SSJ4 Goku alone is stronger then Super Vegetto, how do you expect Super Vegetto to beat SSJ4 Gogeta? He didn't say time. Are you fucking KIDDING me? Nov 4, 2020 - Explore Stacey Green's board "Vegito vs Gogeta", followed by 580 people on Pinterest. So I think they are both equals, or almost. Vegito could technically be argued as universal due to being superior to both SSB Vegeta and Goku while Gogeta at peak is only arguably Multi-Galaxy due to pretty much decimating Omega Shenron who would gradually destroy the universe over time with his very influence. Even as SSJ, they would have the same power level. Which is all well and good. And we know that JP is currently on the Majin Buu arc, so they will eventually release a transforming base form Vegito card in the future. Old Kai NEVER stated Potara was far superior to Fusion Dance. There's no evidence to support this. [7]S'h'a'k'u'r'a'n'13[8] 21:06, October 5, 2011 (UTC). Sure, the villian of the movie may or may not be as powerful as Buu, but he sure is more than a match for one super saiyan. But guess what bitch. Vegetto was nothing more than icing on the cake. When janemba transformed into super janemba Goku ss3 was beaten fairly easily. Vegito vs gogeta? * 50 (since Gogeta only used his SSJ form) = 3,2 bi. So, as I said, it is all down to timing. If that wasn't enough, Gogeta was able to overpower Broly by powering up to Super Saiyan Blue. So Gogeta fused by Vegta and Goku at any lvl can get Gogeta ssj4 but the strongest form would be Goku ssj4 and Vegta ssj4 to make a ssj4 Gogeta that would last 15 min.So lets say that Gogeta dosnt have a time limet and is ssj4 and Goku isnt a kid like in gt. That was just me stating something about whatever Old Kai said. The reason it can only mean fat buu is that VEGETA is DEAD!!. The reason Toriyama even created Vegetto was to make a Goku-Vegeta fusion that blew Gogeta out of the water (Gogeta appeared first). Personally, I like Gogeta more but Vegito would ultimately beat him becaue of his fusion time. 3.) Then Vegeta and Gokus training in GT. Vegeta would have to go through a hell lot of nonexistent training to catch up to Goku. Gogeta had to be SSJ to beat Janemba. Let us know in the comments! I think the fight would last until Gogeta unfused, making Vegito the winner. no it doesnt becase post goten and post trunks stand absolutely no chance vs ssj3 goku. you cant remove the time limit. So in equal forms Vegetto could pull it off but it won't be easy, Problems with ALL THE IDEAS IF YOU GO BACK TO DRAGON BALL KING PICALOW DESTROYED THE DRAGON BALLS YES KING PICALOW AND OMAGA SHENRON IS A FUSION OF THE DRAGON BALLS DARK ENERGY WHOULD THAT MEANS KING PICALOW CHOULD BEAT SSJ 4 GOKU SO IF GOGETA GOES SSJ4 SSJ 1 GOKU CAN WIN. The Japanese language release of the series is complete, and available to stream on FunimationNOW, VRV, and Crunchyroll. buus fusion wheres off and GOKu states "GOHAN can take you now". While I think Gogeta is considerably more BA, Vegito takes this one because Goku is allowed to contribute the entirety of his power, whereas with the fusion dance he can't contribute all of it. so MINIMUM gohan is 2x stronger than super buu. How about Vegito, typical Vegeta playing with his prey or Goku's happy nature and love for the toughest battles? However, Gogeta (GT is not canon in this situation) is much more serious. I’ve seen people say Fusion Dance gets a + boost and Potara gets a * boost so Vegito must be stronger but this isn’t ever stated outright and doesn’t even need to be considered. That means the base fusion is stronger than the max power levels of each person. ", Vegito's fusion doesn't end. Potra fusion times their power by 10 while fusion dance times it by3 therefor vegeto is stronger. Vegito has 2 more states to ascend to. I actually think that is the other way around. Since I got on the topic of asking about Vegito vs Gogeta, why not Kefla vs Vegito? Gogeta (SSJ) seen stronger than Vegito (SSJ) based on their fights, but numerous comments put Vegito on advantage, although the word "stronger" was never mentioned. Vegito wears two earrings as result from the Potara fusion, and wears an inverted version of Goku's outfit. Vegito Janemba was around Super Buu's level, and Gogeta destroyed him, however Gogeta would probably get throttled by Buuhan, because he knew a fusion wouldn't work against him, and the only fusion Buu knows about is the fusion he saw Trunks/Goten perform. I think you're reffering to Goku saying that only Majin Buu and Janempa had pushed Goku to use his Super Saiyan 3 form. so the multiplier cannot be that much higher. Regardless, lets say for easier math sake that their power levels were at 10 during the fight with Janemba, and Goku was at say 11 and Vegeta was at 9 fighting Buu. Virtually that goes the same for janemba. Vegito has half of Goku and half of Vegeta. Thought I may as well add something here. after vegito was born, he was base form because of the effect of the fusion, if they became SSJ (any level) before fusing, they wouldn't have been able to power down reducing their lifespan (as the old kai said) . So that means Potaras must be more effective in terms of DURATION. Super Janemba like Kid Buu is pure evil and is a fusion of almost every evil soul in hell. Vegito is at a lower power level than Gogeta, but he would have a chance agianst Gogeta. I believe that when you use the potara earrings, the primary "driver" of the fusion is the one with a higher power level. A lot of people also forget that chronologically speaking, Gogeta happens after Buu, therefore Old fart...i mean Kai was talking about the fusion of Gotenks. As show when Trunks and Goten messed up the dance and became old Gotenks and fat Gotenks. That doesn't mean Hercule's stronger or a better fighter.Shakuran13 01:41, August 4, 2011 (UTC), Exactly. If you multiply both and then divides it by 1 million, you will get 1,050 billion, which multiplied by 50, will result in 55 billions, which will be around 50% stronger than Buu with Gohan absorbed (Buu: 9 bi + 13 from Gotenks + 15 from Gohan = 37 bi * 1,5 = 55 bi). 2.122.37.221 01:00, May 19, 2012 (UTC)MJ_XO, Gogeta is better becaues vegetio didnt kill super buu and gogeta finsh a person because he doesnt have all day but vegetio has all day and he didnt kill super buu and gogeta can go up ssj super ssj2 ssj4 and gogeta has goku more of gokus power level but who would win ssj4 fight, 2.122.37.221 01:15, May 19, 2012 (UTC)MJ_XO. He said that Potara was better, due to not having to do the dance. if janemba was twice as strong and did moderate damage to goku then gogeta must be at least 5 times stronger than janemba minimum. Gogeta is the same. EVER EVER GOING TO GET TO THE CONCLUSION!!!!!! so in a fight considering the both of them where time limit isn't a factor. It's unfair to add Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta into this because he would obviously win, and it's also unfair to say Vegito has the ability to go Super Saiyan 3 cause its not mentioned in DBZ. You all are saying that vegito was toying with buu and that is weaker, well look at this, how many times vegito obliterated super buuhan entirely? The math explains himself. Comparing Goku from the Saiyan Saga to the Goku now is much more of a difference. Goku at the end of the Buu saga is most definetely not stronger than his SSJ3 form, and when you compare Gogeta and Vegito, you would have to use the same power Goku and Vegeta, it's like using a Frieza Saga Goku and Vegeta vs a Cell Saga Goku and Vegeta, it's not fair, and if you're going to use SSJ4 Gogeta then make Vegito a SSJ4. Super Sayian 4 is powerful enough to break the effects of the wish to make goku a child. As far as which fusion is stronger potara or dance neither is, they are both equal. I will use season 1 as evidence. The reason why Buu Saga Vegito is listed with lower statistics than Toei Gogeta, despite that it has been stated that he is much stronger, is that we scale him from the manga continuity, and Gogeta from the anime, as that is the only place that the latter appeared. (we only see ssj of these two forms so we must assume thats as far as they can go.

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